Originally by: CCP Manifest

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I also must emphasize that, as Pann said, we'll have a more "substantive" answer for you tomorrow "from CCP" on many of the things you guys are talking/questioning/legitimately complaining about... so I wanted to make that clear.

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Originally by: Reed Tiburon

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Originally by: Boardwalker

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CCP Soundwave, Kristoffer Touborg. This is your defining moment.

Please step forward and face the community that you have splintered.

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Originally by: Kallynda Nai

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Originally by: CCP Manifest

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Still reading. Progress? I am at post 325.

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Not helping...

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Here is some FEEDBACK.

Originally by: Velicitia

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Originally by: M14D

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Btw, why do we care about a forum ban of this Velicity person.

Inform me. It better be good, otherwise the stupidity of mankind has reached a new low. We're all conflict-seeking bastard sons of Ares.

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1. it's "Helicity"

I believe it was Helicity who initially leaked the newsletter... (someone correct if wrong)

It was mostly this that got her perma-banned.

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Make yourself count and take the survey in here

Originally by: Bane Necran

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Originally by: Ancyker

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So I was on massively and they had a link to the now infamous newsletter, which I thought I had already read on evenews24.

But it said something about "missing pages". This peaked my interest so I downloaded it to compare to the first one. There are actually 20 pages in total in the original. It's pretty much the same thing, it appears the pages themselves were not edited, but pages were removed which dropped the context of the remaining pages. So while I'm still upset at those individuals my anger towards CCP as a whole has diminished.

The most notable line is:

DISCLAIMER: The views put forward in this magazine do not reflect general CCP company policies or decisions and are strictly individual opinions, written by CCPers or about CCPers who feel strongly about these issues. This is confidential internal information. Please respect that every company has its trade secrets and that you are privy to those at CCP.

Though it still upsets me that certain individuals at CCP think as outlined in the PDF, I do feel a little better with that simple paragraph. It definitely opens the door for them to fix it, where before I didn't see a chance in hell of that happening.

Compare them for yourself:
EVENews24.com Version
Original Version

The tldr difference is basically this is just asking people within CCP their opinions on the matter and doesn't actually represent any actual plans. I still want confirmation in writing and signed by the CEO himself before I believe anything that CCP says, but I'm a bit less ragequit-y now.

While this doesn't restore my trust/faith in CCP, it damages what little I had to start with in evenews24. Ok, well, I never actually trusted evenews24 at all, but now I definitely won't ever trust them :P

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Things just got much more interesting.

Good eye, sir.

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Originally by: Reed Tiburon

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Originally by: Kaeda Maxwell

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CCP: I'm not on the verge of quitting right now. I don't like jumping the shark.

What I would like is a very clear; "No we will not now and not ever sell any item for RL cash that will give an ingame advantage over other players". And the pledge will have to come from somebody at board level like Hilmar for it to still have any credibility to the player base at this point I think.

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They will not say it. Mark my words.


What they might say is: "No we will not (for now) sell any item for RL cash that will give an ingame advantage over other players."

Then 6 months later, SUDDENLY GOLD RIFTER.

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In other words

Originally by: Zverofaust

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CCP_OhWell CCP OhWell
We're still in intense meetings... solutions are not easy in this. #tweetfleet #eveonline
1 minute ago

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Originally by: egola

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GUYS, you KNOW they're not gonna read 90% of whatevers gonna be said, what they're doing is just tactical diversion to get you to ALL vent in one thread. do what you all were doing and just complain all you want and unless they address all the issues in its ENTIRETY don't bother stopping.

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This is not venting. This is INCARNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

CCP's new policy - Bans away!

Originally by: CCP Pann

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While most of what I do happens behind the curtains, I am still aware of whatÆs going on front and center.

ItÆs clear that many of you are <understatement alert> angry </alert>.

I was the one who made the decision to hold off on responding for a while to see if things cooled down once the new wore off.

I was wrong to do that and I apologize. We should have said something much sooner.

I promise weÆll start getting some info out tomorrow.

If you have something to say, IÆd like very much to hear it.

Humbly yours,
~P~

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Originally by: CCP Manifest

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CCP Zulu will be finishing and publishing his dev blog in around an hour, but less.
We will start a comment thread, as always.

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Originally by: Smoking Blunts

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Originally by: CCP Manifest

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CCP Zulu will be finishing and publishing his dev blog in around an hour, but less.
We will start a comment thread, as always.

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dont you mean the PR guys will finish edited the carefully constructed blog we spent all day putting together in the meetings we have been made to attend?

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Game over folks

GAME OVER

Originally by: Aessaya

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Oh, and by the way, Damage Control II won't do it anymore. You'll need at least tech4 or an officer DC now. Good luck with that, tbh.

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Originally by: Corrak

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I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what CCP is doing and give them less of what they want $$$

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Originally by: Alice Katsuko

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So ... going by the newsletter and Hilmar's oh-so-enlightening e-mail, I assume we can eventually expect CCP to copy the Allods Cash Shop. That particular bit of developer idiocy certainly turned out well.

Keep going, CCP. You made about $4000 in one-time monocle sales, and lost nearly $15,000 in monthly subscription fees.

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Originally by: Ryunosuke Kusanagi

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have to remember, its only 5... 6am maybe in Iceland atm?

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Originally by: Karontin Maysubile

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This is just so sad. I honestly think Eve will not make it through this mess. Think of all the story, the gameplay, everyone you know in game who will simply vanish.

CCP, you let your shortsighted beancounters make your policy and now New Eden will die because of it.

cutting my losses early, -2.

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Originally by: Kellaen

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Originally by: Android Mindslave

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Let us give Hilmar what he wants!

I got lucky and two of my accounts were already down to the wire, so I've already got 2 out of 3 characters not training!

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IS THAT HILMAR ON THAT BULLDOZER UP THERE??? - OH WOW

...and all they offer is bans.
Liang down - Helicity down - Eve Offline FTW!

Originally by: Marcus Vorenius

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Originally by: Estelle McDeal

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Dear players,

how tarded are you?
We told you that we can¦t tell you what is going on behind the scenes as you already freaked out for some monocles.
Of course we had plans to sell anything via MT starting with shiny ships and ending with your corpses.
So stop being stupid and stop asking over and over again if we plan to do so.
It was obvious from the very beginning of NeX.
What do you think where we get all the money from for coding stuff that doesn¦t work and nobody ever asked for (=incarna)?
What do you think who is paying Dust?
We made a big hype about walking on station. Now you got your ****ty looking avatar walking in his prison cabin so better stfu and praise us for being pro.
At least do so once your computer has cooled down to a temperature lesser then that of nuclear fusion.
Would you now consider to stfu, play the game that is a bit screwed and continue to give us your money?
And as our glorious leader told in this not so leaked mail:
WE SIMPLY DON¦T CARE ABOUT YOU. WE ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS WE ARE ONLY FRIEND TO YOUR ****ING CREDIT CARD. GET IT.

Sincerely
CCP


Probably this kinda stuff will appear in the next Fearless magazine.

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Hilmar is copy/pasting like crazy now ... it is spot on, it will just be packed in a lot of marketing mumbo-jumbo

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EVE ONLINE - AS WE KNOW IT NOW - IS HEADING TO /DEV/NULL

<INSERT DUKE NUKEM RELATED QUOTE WITH POOP & FUNERALS HERE> HILMAR

Originally by: Horn Silver

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Originally by: MisterAl tt1

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Originally by: Horn Silver

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ВЫ ИДЕТЕ НЕ ВВЕСТИ НИКАКИЕ ДЕТАЛИ ТЩЕТЫ В РЫНОК NEX??

Just Answer the question!!

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Sorry, but this would be something like:

СОБИРАЕТЕСЬ-ЛИ ВЫ ВВОДИТЬ ПРЕДМЕТЫ, ВЛИЯЮЩИЕ НА ИГРОВОЙ ПРОЦЕСС, В ГМ-ШОП??

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TY I used google or a like. Hope the message comes over now you corrected me. ;)

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Originally by: Ander

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Say CCP have sold 60 monocles by now.
From the cancellation of account google list we're seeing close to 1000 account cancellations.

6000USD revenue for monocles.
15000EUR revenue loss for account cancellations.

Who will win the race?

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JOIN THE PROTEST - UNSUB TODAY

Originally by: Talamicus

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Originally by: Miilla

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Originally by: Asyssa Stargazer

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All of you sitting here complaining about the direction of Eve are wasting your time.

If you truly want to be heard vote with your wallet - they WILL take notice.

I just cancelled my two subscriptions - if you are unhappy with the current state of affairs I urge you to do the same.

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We have, we are just having FUN now :)

Well, I am anyway lol

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Ditto, Cancelled hours ago

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Originally by: cl1de

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My account is up in ~20 mins. I will resub when CCP decides to listen to their playerbase. I have no desire to pay a company for recreational stuff that has no PR.

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HEY CCP HILMAR - I JUST FOUND THIS.
LOOKS LIKE THE TRUE CCP IS FILLED WITH ROTTEN APPLES AND TOTAL BS

Originally by: loolaa

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People of eve it seems GM have been instructed to gag and Ban accounts.
due to this Rm discussion.

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Originally by: Johnny Astro Jr

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Originally by: Invelious

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Edited by: Invelious on 25/06/2011 09:53:16
Hilmar


Hilmar part 2

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I love the internet ... 2nd one is great

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Originally by: Izo Azlion

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Originally by: wide

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Edited by: wide on 25/06/2011 19:51:30
From Helicity Boson:

[5:29:36 PM] Two Step: that isn't gonna help
[5:29:43 PM] Two Step: and can you please answer my question?
[5:29:51 PM] Two Step: 1) Is CCP planning on selling non-vanity MT
[5:30:53 PM] CCP Zulu: CCP plans on evolving its offering of virtual goods based on player demand

Source is CSM Skype conversation.

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Players demand that you make it only Vanity items. For the love of EVE, please, please don't **** us up the arse again....

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